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spending reforms in areas like debt. extension of the debt ceiling for two years. clarification on europe. first, the recession needs to stabilize, but beyond that, policy initiatives clearly indicate a road to political and fiscal and banking reforms and an indication that europe is serious about improving competitiveness. resumption of growth in emerging economies, like china, and finally the federal successfully engineering a modest increase in interest rates without unleashing runaway inflation. maria, these are tall orders, i know, but resolution of all these issues would be a huge boost to business confidence, capital expenditures and hiring would increase dramatically and revenues would rise, and that's what we need, maria. back to you. >> that's some list, bob. >> pretty ambitious. >> we'll be watching that. not everybody is buying into this bull market theory, by the way. pimco's bill gross is actually warning investors to be afraid, and i mean very afraid, of how inflation and the flood of cheap money will impact investments from here on out. bill joins me exclusively from pimco
to start figuring out what to do with the debt ceiling. all we did is kick the can down the road. we didn't solve any problems so from a derivatives perspective all we're seeing is them taking this without money puts and even capping their upside to buy downside and almost zero cost with put spread callers. >> you think that an investor optimism is up and you think that's a positive for the markets this year. what's your take on the year of the snake and the implications? >> well, maria, i have to tell you i'm immediately skeptical of any investment philosophy based on horscopes. the only way those things work is there's something else going on, some kind of causation to go with the correlation, and when i looked at past markets, markets like 1965, 1989, 2001, the one common denominator that i found that i don't think is in place in 2013 is valuation. on the price matters framework that we use here at river front, particularly in '01 and 1965, those equity markets started those years of the snake at way above their long-term trend return averages which empirically we found to suggest subp
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